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He is a ‘war veteran’. Business has thrown itself into the war of games three times. result? series of defeats. what’s left? 3 billion won in debt. Still, he didn’t run away. He “grinded his body” to pay off his debts. Then came the cancer. he confronted He also fought and won.

A life that is not a ‘debtor’ that you enjoy after 20 years. This time, interstitial lung disease shook his life. As I said before, he is a veteran. He came to his senses quicker than before. “A sniper in the dark is something to be feared, but nothing when its location is discovered.” He persistently searched and found the cause of the disease.

Moon Dan-yeol (59), the most popular English conversation instructor in the 2000s, is the CEO of Ladder Film. He was a star lecturer with a monthly net income of 30 million won. If you hit it now, it’s ‘Ilta Instructor’. He was able to make a living as an affluent instructor, but, to borrow his expression, ‘a sense of diligence (confidence without grounds)’ was the root of the problem. He got into debt while running a hagwon business, and started an Internet English learning site to make up for it, and the debt grew even more. He also entered home shopping broadcasting, but only added more debt.

So in his 30s and 40s, success and failure, popularity and anxiety, challenges and debts coexisted. He was a popular English instructor recognized everywhere, but on the other hand, he was always a debtor suffering from calls from creditors calling for debt repayment. Even though he cried, he did not give up his walk. conclusion thus obtained. “He failed at the game, but he didn’t fail at life.”

On the 1st, I met CEO Moon, who published a book called ‘Life is Two Tracks’ (Haenaem), which contains his experiences of failure in business and life, at Ladder Film, Mapo-gu, Seoul. I thought that the road he walked was also a ‘ladder film’ in the end.

Some roads start with failure.

He initially intended to become an interpreter, not a lecturer. Because ‘English’ is a break in the door. When I was in high school, I participated in an English speech contest hosted by the Korea Herald and won first place in the integrated category, and in the early days of the introduction of TOEIC , I took the test without any preparation, and then ranked second in the country (at that time, it was said that the national ranking was known). He prepared for the Graduate School of Interpretation and Translation at Hankuk University of Foreign Studies. His goal was not to pass, but to become a senior. However, he fell. twice as well. During the second failure, he cried and cried, rolling on the floor and banging his head against the wall.

– How did you feel at the time?

“He saw it as the only way out. When I was in college (Yonsei University), my major was theology. My minor was English, but it didn’t help me in the job market. Companies are recruiting new employees by dividing them into languages, commerce, and science, but I didn’t belong to any of them. Then I decided to go to the Graduate School of Interpretation and Translation and become an interpreter.”

– How did you get away?

“I didn’t think I would be able to try one more time. So, I gave a lecture at the academy. Anyway, since college, I have been teaching at Min Byeong-cheol Language Academy in Gangnam, Seoul. Before graduation, I was teaching as a ‘full-time’ instructor rather than a part-time job.”

-Since you were in college?

“When I think about it now, I wonder how it would have happened, but I took my resume and said, ‘Take a look at teaching English well.’ haha. The secretary general put on a puzzled expression and said, ‘Then why don’t you give it a try?’ I passed right then.”

He became ‘A’ in 3 months. He became an instructor with the highest student re-registration rate. He worked like that for over three years. I wish I could have been satisfied there. He was not a complacent person.

-You started your business not long after you became a popular instructor at Minbyeongcheol Language Academy, the largest at the time.

“It was a partnership, but after it went bankrupt, I sharpened my sword again for two or three years and opened ‘Noto Language Academy’ in front of Yonsei University in Sinchon. It was 1994, so I was 30 years old. At that time, he was a ‘lump of hard work’, so the waiting time after saving money was frustrating. He couldn’t see himself objectively. It took more than 15 years to get out of it.”

– Is it okay? After 1 year and 6 months, they said they were on the road to success.

“There were 180 students in the first month. After a year and a half, the number of students increased to about 1,300. My monthly net income was about 30 million won. Originally, the scale of the academy was one floor in a commercial building, but we decided to increase it to three floors. ‘Let’s scrape together the money’. haha.”

– You were already in debt when you started your business.

“I prepared seed money by combining the money I saved up with bank loans and borrowed money from acquaintances. At that time, according to the relevant law, to open a foreign language academy, the actual rating had to be 100 pyeong (330㎡). when interest rates were high. I ran it while paying it off, and finally started to make a profit, but I borrowed more money to expand.”

Soon after, the IMF bailout crisis hit.

– How did it go?

“The number of students dropped by half. However, the academy has already expanded. I thought I would be able to endure it, but I tried to pay off my debt with debt, and later the debt increased to 570 million won. At the last minute, I thought about borrowing a private loan. Still, I’m glad I didn’t touch the debentures.”

-It was the first time I was in such a big debt, so it must have been helpless.

“But at that time, I thought, ‘It’s a business debt, so let’s do a good job to pay it off’. It was at the time of the dot-com craze. Originally, I am curious and I am good at adapting to new cultures, so this time I created an internet language learning site (Punglish).”

– Still, you must have seed money.

“I got an angel investment (individual investment to raise capital for a start-up underfunded). I guess I have a knack for talking. I received investment from 16 angel investors. At that time, I didn’t know that it was the gateway to suffering, and I thought of it as a government official who was recognized for my abilities.”

The ‘Punglish’ he made did well, but it didn’t make any money. It was not enough to break through people’s stereotype that ‘the Internet is free’. In addition, when the bubble of the dot-com craze was lifted, all that was left was debt. Debt doubled. Fortunately, on the other hand, the value of his name has also risen. After seeing the video content he made while publishing his first book, ‘Let’s put a pada on the pronunciation of kimchi’, cable channel Talent TV suggested a program. Talent TV ‘s ‘Butter Pronunciation Academy’ served as a stepping stone to advance into EBS .

-EBS ‘English Cafe’ was very popular.

“At the time, the viewership rating was about 3%. At that time, it was recorded and played at school, so there must have been more people who actually watched it. In other words, it was similar to a ‘night stage singer’ appearing on ‘Gayo Top 10’.”

– Did you feel the popularity?

“It was amazing. His first memory is when he went to ‘Everland’ to play with his family. Someone said, ‘I’m watching the broadcast well. It’s fun and I can study,’ he said, ‘thank you’ for recognizing me. But after a month or two, people start to recognize me at rest areas on the highway. After a while, I know who I am no matter where I go.”

-But the business continued to be in the red, so it must have been a strange feeling.

“As I became more and more famous, the debt also increased. So it felt like my existence was splitting (in both directions). On one side, people said ‘Wow’ to find out, and on the other side, debtors urged them to ‘pay their debts’. I’ve never enjoyed popularity. On the contrary, when I appeared on TV , debtors called me saying, ‘Why don’t you pay me back when you make so much money’, so I became more anxious. ‘I can’t do it in this life. I thought I would just pay off the debt and finish.”

– It wouldn’t have been nice to be famous.

“I thought about dying a lot. I live thanks to my family. Because that (double) time continued, my calluses broke out. No matter what sounds you hear outside during the day, when the sun goes down and it’s time to go home, you want to say, ‘It’s heaven from now on’. During the day, even if I heard ‘swindlers’, ‘liars’, ‘hidden money and never paid back’, all sorts of things that lowered my self-esteem, it was fine as long as I went home.”

The most hopeful story I’ve heard in my life was ‘I only need one person’. “A person can live as long as there is one person in the world who acknowledges me and deeply sympathizes with me.” These are the words of author Jeong Hye-shin, a psychiatrist and doctor. I guess he did too.

-Your family is your support.

“Fortunately, there was no pain at home. Of course, there were things like debt collection agencies knocking on the door and putting a ‘red ticket’ on the house. Even her wife was shocked at first. However, she never once said to me, ‘It’s because of you’ or ‘Can you pay off that debt?’ She said, ‘This period will also pass’, ‘There will be meaning in going through these things’, ‘With the strength of overcoming this difficulty, you will be able to do greater things’, she said. Her wife was one hundred percent (believe me).”

The power that humans give is so great.

– There was a time when you entered home shopping as well.

“During the ‘Punglish’ days, I sold learning devices and textbooks through home shopping. But the better it sold, the bigger the loss. I was not a business person.”

The accumulated debt is 3 billion won.

-After the third failure, I think it must have been really helpless.

“Then it confronted me. I decided to quit the business. And I decided to pay the debt with my body. At that time, there were many places that called me, so I traveled all over the country to give lectures. One day, when I searched for books and textbooks I wrote, there were about 160 books. Things I conceived and wrote on the highway at that time.”

-Your body must have been really hard, but how did you endure at that time?

“I think I endured it with the expressions of the people listening to the lecture. The time I gave a lecture in front of the largest audience was at the Grand Peace Hall (4,500 seats) at Kyunghee University. The seats are full. When I stand on the podium, even if thousands of people are sitting in front of me, I can see the faces of the people sitting in front of the door in the back row. I adjust the tone and content of the lecture while watching the audience’s reaction. I try to raise the level to the level where the audience and I are in sync ( synchronization ) and breathe together. In the process, the audience goes ‘Wow!’ When I see the expression of realization, I thought, ‘I can live with this’, no matter how badly I am a creditor. The happiness I felt then cannot be expressed in words.”

There was an impressive passage in his book, ‘Life is Two Tracks’. It was when creditors applied to the court to specify the debtor’s property and he appeared in court. The debtor must file an inventory with the court and swear before the judge that the contents are true. However, the judge had to point him out and take an oath as the debtor’s representative. He still remembers the scene vividly. “Moon Dan-yeol, take off your hat. Dan-yeol Moon, representing the 20 people, take the oath.”

– How did you feel at that time?

“The judge’s words sounded like ‘come to the guillotine’. I felt like I was labeled a ‘failure’. He didn’t know that he would get his name called and take the oath. For the first time in my life, my mind went blank. I only remember going to the bathroom after the oath and throwing up. But in a way, it was a turning point.”

-Has he become an opportunity to change himself?

He said, “He realized he was in a place where there was nowhere else to go. Every time I thought this was the end, but it turned out that there was an underground underground. But at that time, I thought, ‘This is underground with nowhere to go down’. After that day, the fear of falling further disappeared.”

-What is the reason why the oath was so hurt at that time?

“Still, I have lived with the pride of being ‘a person who makes other people’s lives better’, but it felt like I was being certified and publicly executed as ‘you are no different’. The biggest worry I had while living as a debtor was ‘Who is EBS?What if I go to the front and hold a one-person demonstration?” She hates it more than dying. Fortunately, that didn’t happen, but it was worse than that. In a sense, he died that day. Because the pride I held on to until the end died. After that, I felt more at ease.”

-In addition, in 2011, I was diagnosed with colon cancer.

“The doctor said, ‘It’s early. I still have to do surgery. He said that whether or not to undergo chemotherapy should be judged after undergoing surgery. He felt like he had been hit with a hammer. He worked like that, so it’s only natural that he got caught. I went to the hospital with his wife and he left the doctor’s office because his head was spinning. She paid the bill at the storage counter and turned around, but her wife, who looked like she was about to burst into tears, suddenly turned around and asked, ‘I… , Will she have a cash receipt?’ I burst out laughing at that.”

– What did you think and laughed?

“My wife has lost her mind. I’ve been letting go Her wife was admirable. As she recalled the incident later, she thought: She said, ‘Even if we go crying, let’s cry as we go. She said, ‘Let’s live on two tracks.’”

Her surgery was successful and he also recovered. Ironically, the health crisis came again early last year, 11 years later. Interstitial lung disease has developed. It is a disease that can lead to fibrosis of the lungs if aggravated.

– I think the shock would have been greater then.

“I thought something had come. But this time I came to my senses after 2 or 3 days. I’ve fought once. You’re a veteran. The causes of interstitial lung disease are innumerable. Everyone is different.”

He found a residence in Yangyang-gun, Gangwon-do. Yangyang is famous for its clean air and low fine dust. From then on, he began to record all the factors that could affect his body condition as data and record it every day along with his body’s response.

– How are you now?

“They say it’s not going any further and it’s clean. It turns out that I react to ingredients like disinfectants, insecticides, and preservatives. We found 11 such elements. I live by completely avoiding that factor.”

His bright smile was reassuring.

– If it’s a business, you’d be sick of it, but I started another business 8 years ago.

“Because I have to make a living. Now I can’t do lectures that run with my body like I used to. I started because I wanted to do something fun based on the principles I learned from business failures. The principle is no store, no capital, no borrowing, no investment. It started as a non-store, but now it’s stable and I’ve set up an office.”

Ladder Film produces in-house educational videos or product promotion videos for companies. An educational project was also launched to nurture video planning experts. He said that what he was doing was, after all, ‘translation’. “The language of description and function that describes the technology or utility of a product is the language of the supplier. We translate supplier language into consumer language, like value language, seduction language, that the public understands and needs. This is an explanation I made up.”

-How are you today?

“Now that the company is financially solid, for the first time in my life, I am living without worrying about utility bills, loan interest, or employee salaries.”

– Looking back, when was the time of success and the time of failure in life?

“Well, I guess my whole life has been half-success and half-failure. I succeeded in getting my face known, but my business continued to fail. I paid off all the debt, but I got cancer because I worked so hard to pay it off. I thought he had risen above ground from the underground, but he had interstitial lung disease.”

-What did that time give me?

“I couldn’t look at myself objectively and coolly, but my passion was too much. So, as a matter of course, the business failed. But thanks to that period, I think I’ve definitely become smarter스포츠토토. Suffering gives humility in the end, and it seems that humble people become smarter. Because you can look at yourself hyperrealistically. To put it nicely, it means that I have gained wisdom.”

-What would you say if you were to rewrite the definition of the word failure?

“You can’t learn anything unless you fail. I was able to filter out useless things in my life as I went through times of failure. So there is no 100% failure. And I found out. Let’s not confuse games with life.”

-What does it mean.

“Substitution? business? This is a game. Relationships with family and close friends, this isn’t a game, it’s life. The moment you think that failure in the game is failure in life, you become unhappy. You can’t confuse the two. All of my failures were in games. Even when I failed in the game, I was fine in my life. It was worth living and I am grateful.”

-What is the way of life gained from experiences of failure in life?

“Let’s live as we are! I live because when I was me, I woke up. At one time, I resented, cursed, and tried to fix my appearance. But, in the end, it was me who raised me up. me the way i was That’s why I think the best thing was not to die. You don’t know how lucky I am that he didn’t die.”

It is a welcome realization that he climbed on the ladder of half success and half failure.